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Fox News personality Tucker Carlson was asked on Saturday night at America Fest 2022 if he was supporting Donald J. Trump or Ron DeSantis for President in 2024. He didn’t deliver a direct answer, as he had vowed moments earlier to no longer make political predictions, but he said spoke positively about both men.

Tucker started his answer with a story about humility from Mike Tyson. Carlson interviewed the former heavyweight champion and asked how he handles criticism. Tyson told him when he feels like he is somebody, he’s really offended by it. But when he remembers he is nobody, it’s OK.

“That’s exactly right,” Carlson said. “Let’s be honest — who cares what I think. You know what I mean? I’m not endorsing anybody.”

Carlson said he spends a lot of time in Florida and thinks DeSantis has done an unbelievable job. He said he doesn’t know the governor well, but said people are moving to Florida because he is the governor.

“I’ve lived in a lot of states — I’ve never lived in a state where people at dinner say, ‘I’m really glad we have our governor,'” Carlson said. “People will literally say that about Ron DeSantis where I live.”

But, he added, he is grateful Trump ran in 2016.

“Donald Trump completely changed my view of everything,” Carlson said. “Donald Trump is why I left Washington and he did it in a really simple way by asking questions that no one around him could answer.”

Trump asked things like, why don’t we have a border. And he asked what’s the point of NATO.

Carlson said people couldn’t answer those questions and instead claimed Trump was racist.

“If people can’t defend what they’re doing, they shouldn’t be doing it,” Carlson said. “It’s really simple. If you can’t defend what you’re doing, you’re doing the wrong thing.”

The system will not release the Kennedy Files 59 years later because, Carlson said, they were involved.

Trump exposed the whole thing, Tucker added, by just asking simple questions.

“I love Donald Trump as a guy,” he said. “I’ve known Trump for 20 years. I just have always gotten along with him. I think he’s one of the funnest people I’ve ever talked to in my life. There is an unbelievable life force to him.”

Interviewing Trump, he said, is a nightmare because you can’t steer the Trump train. But talking to Trump is one of the great joys. And he said it is a lie that Trump is some force of evil.

“It’s like, no, that’s Liz Cheney,” Carlson quipped.

Trump is charming and, Carlson said, his insights into people are always on point.

Fundamentally, Carlson said he agrees with Trump on big things. But he said thankfully he doesn’t have to think through how it will end.

“At this point, it does seem like two forces are moving toward one another at high speed,” he said. “And how can that go well? And the answer is I have no idea. I have no idea what’s going to happen. It’s a cliffhanger.”

He did say he thinks it will work out a little better than most Republicans expect, noting some people are terrified of a horribly destructive primary that allows 83-year-old Joe Biden to continue to allow Barack Obama to actually run the country.

“And that is a nightmare scenario,” he said. “But I don’t think it’s assured.”


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